Re: Linux in a School envrionment

[Alan DeJong <annette@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Bruce Smith wrote:

> >The thing with Novell servers and Windows desktops is that Novell has
> >this great product called ZEN Works. It stands for Zero Effort Networks.
> >(it's a little more than zero effort, believe me. :) You can pretty much
> >lock down the desktop so users can only get to what they need (read:
> >what you want them to).

Like i said in my other e-mails.. I am in the Novell Class, and its not
locked down.. We gained Administrator Access to the computer itself in less
than 2 days.. (only because we were in class for an hour)  And with Netware
Administrator, we made policies that blocked the admin policy packages and
were "remote controling" the admins workstating with no request for
permission...  And even without the "run" command, you still have explorer or
the good ole command prompt...  We gave the teacher a little show for her
money and she wasnt impressed.  If 2 highschool student could gain admin
access in 2 hours... well, i dont even want to think about it.

Last year we had a high school student working in our department

> as part time help.  He went to a high school outside of the
> Kalamazoo district (not Three Rivers).
>
> They also use Novell at his high school and had all the PC's there
> "locked down".  I don't know if they were using "ZEN" or not, but
> according to the student, it was very easy to get around the lock
> down program just by accessing "run" from a menu on any program
> that had it (like word or excel).  That would allow him to run any
> program he wanted by name.
>
> Just curious, but does "ZEN" address that problem, or am I telling
> all the students on this list how to break your security?   :-)