Re: Netscape 6 nee Mozilla, and OpenBSD images

[Ian Rowan <imrowan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

>> Except that Netscape 6 sucks, that is a scientific fact.
>
>Just because [almost?] everyone has this OPINION, doesn't
>necessarily make it a fact.  There might be a couple people
>in this world who disagree.  Like the authors and some others
>in Redmond who like bloatware!   :-)

As someone who resembles that remark... If Mozilla-the-platform
is bloatware in your opinion, try one of the fine browsers that
are using the Gecko engine (galeon in Linux, kmeleon in Windows).
Personally, I find Mozilla to be far less "bloated" than Internet
Explorer considering their respective featuresets; although I
still prefer IE, that's becoming less true every day. If you read
LinuxToday.Com comments (a little less problematic than Slashdot).
you'll see anecdotal evidence divided equally between those who
find Mozilla's performance unacceptable no matter how new a box
they have, and those who find its performance quite acceptable
even on somewhat older hardware. Given the analogy between 
opinions and sphincters, I'm inclined to believe that there is
no right answer here, and that every individual will have to try
Mozilla for themselves if they want to know if they'll like it.

Bruce also wrote:

>...If you're wondering why I don't offer OpenBSD for sale on KLUG,
>it's because they don't provide ISO (CD) images for download, and 
>they have a copyright on the ISO images of the CD's they sell.
>Even though their CD's contain 100% freely distributable software,
>it is not legal to copy their CD's.  The only way around this is 
>to download all the files separately and create a CD from them,
>and I haven't found the time to do that (and have no plans to).

See

http://www.shockley.net/obsd-bootcd.asp

for relatively simple instructions on how to make a bootable
OpenBSD CD. I've done this myself; the only problem was that I
didn't have room for everything I wanted, so I deleted [X]emacs
and Netscape Communicator (left Navigator on, though).

>This is OpenBSD's way to raise funds for their project, and I'm
>not criticizing it, only stating the facts as I understand them.

My "preferred solution" is to use my homemade CD as a teaser to get
people interested in OpenBSD, encourage them to purchase the official 
distribution, and occasionally buy T-shirts, stickers and the like to
partially offset the bandwidth I leech off them and their mirrors. I
will burn new CD's for people on an individual case basis, based on
whether I think they can afford the official CD, how much I like the
person, and what kind of a mood I'm in at that exact moment in time.

-dj
 should be wearing an OpenBSD shirt at the next meeting.

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