Re: Mail List Manager

[Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

>>I need to create a mail list server, and am looking for software
>>recommendations. 
>I've never tried it, but I've heard good things about "mailman".
>It's on the Redhat 7.1 Powertools CD.   From the RPM description:
>Description :
>Mailman is software to help manage email discussion lists, much like
>Majordomo and Smartmail.  Unlike most similar products, Mailman gives
>each mailing list a web page, and allows users to subscribe,
>unsubscribe, etc. over the web.  Even the list manager can administer
>his or her list entirely from the web.  Mailman also integrates most
>things people want to do with mailing lists, including archiving, mail
><-> news gateways, and so on.
>I've thought about trying it on KLUG, but never got around to it.

Ok, I went and got Mailman,  and it looks to have every feature a mail manager could have and then some.  I installed on a RH7 box (sendmail 8.11.0-8 & python 1.5.2.-27).  I can create lists and see the administrative pages.  I have a sym-link in /etc/smrsh to /usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper, I can smrsh -c wrapper and I get a message "Usage: /etc/smrsh/wrapper program [args...]" so I think that is working.  However if I try to send a message to the list-name I get the following in my maillog:
-----------------------------------------------------------------
May  4 14:39:25 kohocton Mailman mail-wrapper: Usage: /etc/smrsh/wrapper program
[args...] 
May  4 14:40:20 kohocton sendmail[13068]: f44IeKl13068: from=adam, size=41,
class=0, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<200105041840.f44IeKl13068@kohocton.morrison.iserv.net>,
relay=adam@localhost
May  4 14:40:22 kohocton smrsh: uid 8: attempt to use
wrapper.post.morrison-cisMay  4 14:40:22 kohocton sendmail[13070]: f44IeKl13068:
to=|/usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper post morrison-cis, ctladdr=morrison-cis
(8/0), delay=00:00:02, xdelay=00:00:02, mailer=prog, pri=30041, dsn=5.0.0,
stat=Service unavailable
May  4 14:40:22 kohocton sendmail[13070]: f44IeKl13068: f44IeMk13070: DSN:
Service unavailable
May  4 14:40:22 kohocton sendmail[13070]: f44IeMk13070: to=adam, delay=00:00:00,
xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30141, relay=sardine.morrison.iserv.net.
[192.168.1.12], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (f44IeM109366 Message accepted for deliver

And a bounce message like:
--------------------------------------------------------------------
   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
   |/usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper post morrison-cis
       (reason: service unavailable)
       (expanded from: morrison-cis)

      ----- Transcript of session follows -----
   smrsh: wrapper.post.morrison-cis not available for sendmail programs
   554 5.0.0 |/usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper post morrison-cis... Service
   unavailable

I don't think it is a permissions problem:
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ls -l /etc/smrsh/wrapper
lrwxrwxrwx    1 mail     mail           31 May  3 16:31 /etc/smrsh/wrapper ->
/usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper
ls -l /usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper 
-rwxr-xr-x    1 mail     maillist    37461 May  3 18:02
/usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper
#su - mail
sh-2.04$ whoami
mail
sh-2.04$ ls -l /usr/local/mailman/mail
total 40
-rwxr-xr-x    1 mail     maillist    37461 May  3 18:02 wrapper
sh-2.04$ ls -l /usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper
-rwxr-xr-x    1 mail     maillist    37461 May  3 18:02
/usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper
sh-2.04$ /usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper
Usage: /usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper program [args...]
sh-2.04$ /usr/sbin/smrsh -c wrapper
Usage: /etc/smrsh/wrapper program [args...]
sh-2.04$ /usr/sbin/smrsh -c /usr/local/mailman/mail/wrapper
Usage: /etc/smrsh/wrapper program [args...]
sh-2.04$ /usr/sbin/smrsh -c /bin/ls                        
/usr/sbin/smrsh: ls not available for sendmail programs

Anyone fought battles with smrsh before?