Re: Wine and Linux termincal services

[Adam Tauno Williams <adam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

>Thank you for your imput.
>As far as MS office, I need to run Office 2k. Thanks to the Teacher
>Technology initative, I now have 180 laptops with Office 2k on them
>and you know that some people will not be able to tell the difference
>between Office 97 and 2k when they save the programs.

<Warning: HIGH RANT FACTOR> I am quite familiar with the TTI, having read the
end-user agreements, etc...  This is nothing but a very expensive (to tax
payers) railroading of the school system by the Dell/Microsoft monstrosity. 
First, the hardware/software has not been purchased at any significant discount,
and they know that the infrastructure at most schools is incompatible with what
they are providing (it eludes to that fact in a couple of the documents).  What
better way to sell thousands of copies of your products then to sledge hammer
the administrators of those networks into buying them.  I find it hard to
beleive that no-one from the public schools considered this when devising the
TTI,  but then I had to donate several ethernet cables to one school because
they couldn't hook up the computers they did have because they couldn't get
CABLES from administration in less than several months.    There are many GREAT
people in the school system,  but usually they are made hapless victims of utter
and gross incompetence and corruption by the "powers that be".</RANT>

>I have already ran into some people that saved some work on their
>laptops then come to work (work we are running Office 97) and they are
>having problems opening the files. The next thing I hear from them is
>"PUT Office 2k on my computer" (love it when they demand stuff
>from me). Almost all the desktops here are running Windows NT 4.0
>workstation.
>There are many computers that are not working well because they are old.
>If I could somehow put them on a Terminal service ( I do not
>want to use Citrix, it gets to expensive) 

Doesn't Win2000 server come with terminal services by default?  I could be
wrong.  Last time I tried to figure out Terminal Server licensing I had flash
backs to translating a very old latin copy of "The Labors of Hercules" into
english.  If you have M$ desktop clients, you already have a CAL, yes?

>and then run the MS products no them, then that would save me a lot of money
>and headaches for now.
>So, if anyone can get a old computer to run Linux from a server then
>wine on that for the MS applications, I would love to work with you

I would advise you to search the Wine mail archives concerning Office 2000,  and
see if anyone has had any luck.

>to get this project up and running here at Sturgis Schools.
>Maybe, if we can get this working it would be a great presentation for
>KLUG.

It would,  but I suspect they have you by the proverbial you-know-whats.

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