Re: Article in Kalamazoo Gazette

[Adam Tauno Williams <adam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

>>I'm rather disappointed that the Gazette would print a clearly "ax to
>>grind" letter....If we respond, lets be the "bigger man" and take the
>>sky-high road.
>Exactly my intent.

I assumed so,  I just wanted to express my desire to *any* KLUG member who may
take it upon themselves to respond.  Of course,  I'd prefer even more that
KLUG's official response be the only response.  I've witnessed in other
organizations where something like this can get a bit out of control.

>>Just my 2 cents,  since it looks like I played a part in this
>>somewhere.
>Yes, without any additional comment, you directed this person to an
>good source, something he completely neglected to mention.
>>You could *paraphrase* the above as:  "Do it yourself or you'll never
>>learn."  So it could very well be that he means this message....
>One thing I've learned is that one can paraphrase anything as almost
>anything else. If I WANT to be offended, or if I WANT to fume about 
>something, I'll do so.

All true,  just wanted to point out to anyone who may not have experienced this
(yet), that this type of response while uncommon is not quite rare.  This one,
unfortunately, made it into a more public forum.  No defense of this type of
attitude is expressed or implied.

>I had the misfortune of working with someone who was convinced that I 
>wanted her job. I once tried to tell her that this was never on my
>mind, and then she felt insulted; it was clear to her that I didn't think her
>job was "that important". The lesson I take from this sort of thing is
>that you can never win against someone who is bent on picking apart
>every-thing.
>What this has to do with Mr. Starling, I haven't the faintest; your
>point reminds me of this experience.

Just another example of the same type of attitude.   But again,  to anyone who
may choose to respond personally,  this attitude usually developes out of long
festering frustration/fear/lonliness, etc... and is most effectively met with
something OTHER than open hostility.  (Even though the attitude's resulting
action may really stoke one's furnace).
 
>Anyway, Mr. Starling claims that the message was a QUOTE. Someone (the
>sender, or Mr. Starling) ought to produce the mail message to substantiate 
>this claim. If no sender can, then Mr. Starling will be requested for this,
>in due course. 
>>... I will, however, continue to post responses like the above. 
>Oh, we ought not modify our behavior because of this, and I don't think

Exactly.  IMHO,  the list is a public forum anyway and people *should* have a
nice thick skin.

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